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Casinos Ban Dice Setting

12 July 2009

By Frank Scoblete

Dear Frank:

Lately, I've begun to notice some animosity against dice setters. The SunCoast as much as told me I couldn't play craps there ... accused me of not hitting the back wall, which was patently untrue. They're a lot more fun when you're losing.

So I moved on to other casinos. A friend in Canada said two casinos there have banned dice setting. Many people set dice ... they just don't know how to throw after setting. What's been your observations?

Thanks for all your help.

K.Z.

Dear K.Z.:

First, your email brought a smile to my face. No dice setting? About 50 percent of the craps players set the dice in some way, so how crazy is such a silly rule? Such nonsense will probably drive many dice players away from these casinos.

The idea of hitting the back wall has become a kind of demented mantra among the scared casino pit people. Their belief is that Golden Touch dice controllers are trying to miss the back wall in order to get the edge. Of course, if you have taken our course or read our book or seen our DVD, you know we are teaching just the opposite. Our throw is based on hitting the back wall and if we miss the wall it will randomize the dice. Indeed, the casinos should mandate that we miss the back wall, not hit it!

The fear in the pit about missing the back wall is probably based on erroneous information that has been written in industry journals and web sites. Also some critics of dice control believe we teach this "missing the back wall" nonsense.

Another strange thing operates here too. Almost all casino pit people will say they aren't afraid of dice controllers because the technique doesn't work. So why the upset about people setting the dice? If it doesn't work, why hassle the dice setters? Almost all dice setters are still random rollers too. Let's call such thinking, let me be gentle here...such thinking is nuts!

Yes, some casinos have gone batty over this. It might also be some dice setters take too long to set and throw. I did a study comparing dice setters and other rollers and the results showed less than a second's difference between the two groups. What was different was how long it appeared was the difference. Kissing, shaking, winging the dice down the felt where they bounced all over the place looked as if it was fast. The dice setter seems to take more time. My study shows he doesn't.

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Enjoy!

All the best in and out of the casinos!

Frank Scoblete

Frank Scoblete
Frank Scoblete is the #1 best-selling gaming author in America and executive director of Frank Scoblete's Casino Killer College - which teaches classes in advantage methods for craps (Golden Touch Dice Control), blackjack (Speed Count and Optimum Basic Strategy), Pai Gow poker, advantage slot machines, advantage video poker machines, casino poker and tournament poker. His websites are www.goldentouchcraps.com and www.goldentouchblackjack.com. His newest books are The Virgin Kiss and Other Adventures; Golden Touch Dice Control Revolution, co-authored with Dominator; and Golden Touch Blackjack Revolution, which comes with its own practice CD. His newest DVD has just been released - Golden Touch: Beat Craps by Controlling the Dice, which shows 200 unedited controlled dice throws. Frank's books and DVD are available at Amazon.com or by mail order. For a free brochure or to order, call 1-800-944-0406 or write to: Paone Press, Box 446, Malverne, NY 11565

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