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What's the big deal about betting the hardways?

3 May 2009

Dear Frank:

I have a question on bets with big house edges, like the field bet, and the hardways, etc. If I am betting black on the passline (with 5x odds) and I play the hardways for five bucks, how is it that bad?

I mean the house edge on the pass line for a $600 bet is 0.3%, which is two bucks, and the house edge for a hard way for five bucks is 11% or 55 cents, why is it so bad? Just a thought. Your comments would be appreciated.

Cheers!
Sachal

Dear Sachal:

Your $100 pass line bet with $500 in odds is a good bet. You will lose $1.41 cents on that bet, not two dollars. But that 55 cents on that five dollar hardway — well, let me answer this by way of analogy.

In Atlantic City, you can buy the 4 or 10 for $35, paying the one dollar vig up front. The house edge is 2.8% on this bet. However, if you put out $35 for the 4 and $35 for the 10 at the same time, the house will collect three dollars for the bets. Now, how big a deal is that one extra dollar? The casinos that do this are multimillion-dollar businesses. How important is one single, stinking dollar to these people?

That dollar is important because it adds up. So your loss of 55 cents is added to your $1.41 loss making you lose $1.96 every time you bet. Why do that? If you feel compelled to bet an extra five dollars then put it on the pass line and only lose seven cents instead of 55 cents.

Those smaller cents make a lot more sense to me. Hey, if that one extra dollar is good for the casinos, then saving that 55 cents should be good for you!

I am giving you a free 30-day subscription to my private members-only website at www.goldentouchcraps.com. We have over 5,000 members on this private site and the conversations are interesting, enlightening and fun.

Enjoy!

All the best in and out of the casinos!

Frank Scoblete

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Frank Scoblete is the #1 best selling gaming author in America. His newest books are Slots Conquest: How to Beat the Slot Machines; Everything Casino Poker: Get the Edge at Video Poker, Texas Hold'em, Omaha Hi-Lo and Pai Gow Poker!; Beat Blackjack Now: The Easiest Way to Get the Edge; Casino Craps: Shoot to Win!; Cutting Edge Craps: Advanced Strategies for Serious Players; Casino Conquest: Beat the Casinos at Their Own Games! and The Virgin Kiss.

Frank and Casino City Times columnist Jerry "Stickman" teach private lessons in dice control. Frank's books are available at Amazon.com, in bookstores or by mail order. Call 1-800-944-0406 or write to Frank Scoblete Enterprises, PO Box 446, Malverne, NY 11565. Frank can also be reached by email at fscobe@optonline.net.

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Frank Scoblete
Frank Scoblete is the #1 best selling gaming author in America. His newest books are Slots Conquest: How to Beat the Slot Machines; Everything Casino Poker: Get the Edge at Video Poker, Texas Hold'em, Omaha Hi-Lo and Pai Gow Poker!; Beat Blackjack Now: The Easiest Way to Get the Edge; Casino Craps: Shoot to Win!; Cutting Edge Craps: Advanced Strategies for Serious Players; Casino Conquest: Beat the Casinos at Their Own Games! and The Virgin Kiss.

Frank and Casino City Times columnist Jerry "Stickman" teach private lessons in dice control. Frank's books are available at Amazon.com, in bookstores or by mail order. Call 1-800-944-0406 or write to Frank Scoblete Enterprises, PO Box 446, Malverne, NY 11565. Frank can also be reached by email at fscobe@optonline.net.

Frank Scoblete Websites:

www.goldentouchcraps.com
www.goldentouchblackjack.com

Books by Frank Scoblete:

Cutting Edge Craps: Advanced Strategies for Serious Players

> More Books By Frank Scoblete