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Timmer's Vegas trip report: Dealer bets, tipping and the "magic words"

12 August 2012

I’m a believer in the “Golden Rule” of doing unto others as you would have others do unto you. In other words, treat other people the same way you wish to be treated. You’ve likely heard “What goes around comes around” or “Good things happen to good people” or similar sayings. We can all come up with more of these, I’m sure. What they all are essentially saying is if you treat people with kindness and respect, it will come back to you. In spades! I also believe doing this emulates the core values of what Golden Touch Craps (GTC) teaches.

Six of us, myself, my two brothers and our spouses, recently met up for a week in Las Vegas. We all stayed at one of the nicer resort/casinos on the strip. The casino we were staying at has been described as having a great game. But supposedly the dealers there, especially those on the evening shift, were known to give “heat” to controlled shooters.

While we primarily played at our “home” casino, over the course of the week we also played craps at five other casinos on the strip. One afternoon we also played at several places on Fremont.

At every session at all casinos, and each time I was the shooter a $1.00 bet was made for the dealers next to my pass line bet. I also made it a point to loudly proclaim “Dealers on the line” each time the stickman pushed the dice my way. Doing this allowed me to acknowledge the dealer’s “thank you” for the bet by saying “you’re welcome” each and every time I was thanked by the dealers. I added a second $1.00 dealer bet to my pass line odds bet as well.

There may be some confusion for some about dealer bets and tipping worth clearing up here. First, there is no rule or requirement that your bet for the dealers at or above the table minimum. In other words, when playing at a $5.00 or $10.00 table, a $1.00 bet (or more) made for the dealers is perfectly acceptable, generous and welcomed. So now there’s no excuse that you can’t afford to tip or place a bet for the dealers.

Secondly, at most if not all Vegas casinos there is no difference between a pass line or odds bet made for the dealers and a “hardways” or “crazy crapper” bet made for the dealers as to how the tokes (tips) are distributed. While at one time at least one of the well known Vegas strip casinos gave dealer bets won on the “hardways” directly to the individual table crews or to just the craps pit, that is no longer the case. All dealer “tokes” are pooled and divided among all dealers working a given shift at the casino. (There may be exceptions to this “toke distribution procedure.”) Of course tips for the dealers can be made by simply dropping a portion of your winnings on the table and saying, “This is for the dealers.”

One evening we were playing at our home casino on the strip. I was the SR1 [stick right one] shooter and having a pretty good roll; by this point in the mid-20s. Needless to say I had been adding regular dealer bets alongside my pass line and odds bets.

At our end of the table was one of the most annoying people you could ever imagine having at a craps table or elsewhere! This woman was constantly shouting at the dealers in her whiny, high-pitched, heavily accented, almost unintelligible voice as she repetitively threw down late bets or demanded to be paid before the dealer had worked his way to her and I’m being quite kind in my description of her here!

After warning her about five times to stop making late bets, the dealer, referring to me, told the annoying woman, “Ma’am, don’t interrupt a good shooter in the middle of a roll.” Keep in mind that I had been placing dealer tips and using the magic words “please” and “thank you” regularly.

Although having now been warned repeatedly, this annoying woman threw out another late bet when the dice were out. The dealer called out “no bet” to her just before I threw. Well, the annoying woman went ballistic and began angrily hurling insults at the dealer, who sternly yet professionally reminded her she had been warned several times not to make bets after the dice were out.

By this time she had agitated both the crew and everyone else at the table.

The final straw came a few minutes later as I was putting odds on my come bet. Incredibly, the annoying woman claimed it was her come bet! Although several other players assured her it was my bet, she wouldn’t back down. After arguing back and forth with her several times about it, I suggested she “check the tape.” Thankfully the dealer stepped in, telling her he had also seen me make the bet. Well, this still didn’t shut her up so I finally threw her two nickel chips and said “enough.”

Now completely out of control, the annoying woman began to argue with the table supervisor about the dealer. After not getting anywhere with the supervisor, she demanded to speak to the pit boss. A few minutes more of arguing with the pit boss, the annoying woman finally gave up and stormed off.

There is a point to telling this long-winded story about the annoying woman. A short time after she had stormed off, the table supervisor apologized to me for the incident. He insisted on paying me back the $10.00 I had given to the annoying woman, apologized yet again and sincerely requested that I let him know if there was anything more he could do for me. By the way, my roll ended at a profitable 37!

I believe the way this incident was handled by the casino personnel, along with my receiving absolutely no “heat” or criticism at any casino for the entire week are great examples of the power of the GTC philosophy and doing things the “GTC Way.” In fact, I was complimented by one dealer who said “Now, there’s a perfect throw.”

Making dealer bets and/or tipping, along with using the magic words “please” and “thank you,” can be incredibly powerful tools to aid us as players.

Like it or not, along with being taught the skills and “secrets” of dice control and advantage play comes the responsibility of being an ambassador. Our actions are viewed not only by casino personnel, but by other players as well. Our positive attitude, conduct and professionalism (or lack of it) will also impact on our fellow dice controllers who may visit that casino in the future.

Our conduct will seem like a breath of fresh air to casino personnel who are used to routinely dealing with drunk, rude, obnoxious players. By not tipping or being polite, is it possible that we are bringing “heat” upon ourselves? I’ll bet that it is not only possible, but probable.

How do you wish to be treated by others? Then treat them the same way.

Oh, did I mention I left Vegas with a nice profit. Sweet!
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Frank Scoblete

Frank Scoblete is the #1 best selling gaming author in America. His newest books are Slots Conquest: How to Beat the Slot Machines; Everything Casino Poker: Get the Edge at Video Poker, Texas Hold'em, Omaha Hi-Lo and Pai Gow Poker!; Beat Blackjack Now: The Easiest Way to Get the Edge; Casino Craps: Shoot to Win!; Cutting Edge Craps: Advanced Strategies for Serious Players; Casino Conquest: Beat the Casinos at Their Own Games! and The Virgin Kiss.

Frank and Casino City Times columnist Jerry "Stickman" teach private lessons in dice control. Frank's books are available at Amazon.com, in bookstores or by mail order. Call 1-800-944-0406 or write to Frank Scoblete Enterprises, PO Box 446, Malverne, NY 11565. Frank can also be reached by email at fscobe@optonline.net.

Frank Scoblete Websites:

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Frank Scoblete
Frank Scoblete is the #1 best selling gaming author in America. His newest books are Slots Conquest: How to Beat the Slot Machines; Everything Casino Poker: Get the Edge at Video Poker, Texas Hold'em, Omaha Hi-Lo and Pai Gow Poker!; Beat Blackjack Now: The Easiest Way to Get the Edge; Casino Craps: Shoot to Win!; Cutting Edge Craps: Advanced Strategies for Serious Players; Casino Conquest: Beat the Casinos at Their Own Games! and The Virgin Kiss.

Frank and Casino City Times columnist Jerry "Stickman" teach private lessons in dice control. Frank's books are available at Amazon.com, in bookstores or by mail order. Call 1-800-944-0406 or write to Frank Scoblete Enterprises, PO Box 446, Malverne, NY 11565. Frank can also be reached by email at fscobe@optonline.net.

Frank Scoblete Websites:

www.goldentouchcraps.com
www.goldentouchblackjack.com

Books by Frank Scoblete:

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