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Should I place the 4 at craps?

16 November 2008

Frank:

I have been told that you should not place a bet on the come-out roll. The payouts on just placing the point numbers pays better, example $5 pass line and $10 in odds on a point of 4. Why not just put $15 on the 4? What is your theory?

George

Dear George:

The placement of $15 on the 4 will pay $27 on a win — the house edge is a huge 6.67% on that bet.

However using a pass line bet or come bet pays more because the house edge on a double odds game is a mere 0.61%. The place bet is 11 times worse!

Many players forget that the very first placement of a pass line or come bet sees the player obtain a two-to-one edge with eight ways to win and only four ways to lose. So for 12 of 36 come out rolls, you are ahead $20 on a $5 bet (eight wins, four losses, 24 points established).

Now, once the number becomes the point, the payout is less than a place bet. So with $5 on the line/come and $10 in odds on a 4, you win $25. But that initial come-out edge makes the pass/come with double odds a much, much superior bet.

For your letter I am giving you a free 30-day subscription to my private, members-only website at www.goldentouchcraps.com. We have over 5,000 members on this site and I think you will find the discussions quite enjoyable.

All the best in and out of the casinos!

Frank Scoblete

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Frank Scoblete

Frank Scoblete is the #1 best selling gaming author in America. His newest books are Slots Conquest: How to Beat the Slot Machines; Everything Casino Poker: Get the Edge at Video Poker, Texas Hold'em, Omaha Hi-Lo and Pai Gow Poker!; Beat Blackjack Now: The Easiest Way to Get the Edge; Casino Craps: Shoot to Win!; Cutting Edge Craps: Advanced Strategies for Serious Players; Casino Conquest: Beat the Casinos at Their Own Games! and The Virgin Kiss.

Frank and Casino City Times columnist Jerry "Stickman" teach private lessons in dice control. Frank's books are available at Amazon.com, in bookstores or by mail order. Call 1-800-944-0406 or write to Frank Scoblete Enterprises, PO Box 446, Malverne, NY 11565. Frank can also be reached by email at fscobe@optonline.net.

Frank Scoblete Websites:

www.goldentouchcraps.com
www.goldentouchblackjack.com

Books by Frank Scoblete:

Craps Underground: The Inside Story of How Dice Controllers are Winning Millions from the Casinos!

> More Books By Frank Scoblete

Frank Scoblete
Frank Scoblete is the #1 best selling gaming author in America. His newest books are Slots Conquest: How to Beat the Slot Machines; Everything Casino Poker: Get the Edge at Video Poker, Texas Hold'em, Omaha Hi-Lo and Pai Gow Poker!; Beat Blackjack Now: The Easiest Way to Get the Edge; Casino Craps: Shoot to Win!; Cutting Edge Craps: Advanced Strategies for Serious Players; Casino Conquest: Beat the Casinos at Their Own Games! and The Virgin Kiss.

Frank and Casino City Times columnist Jerry "Stickman" teach private lessons in dice control. Frank's books are available at Amazon.com, in bookstores or by mail order. Call 1-800-944-0406 or write to Frank Scoblete Enterprises, PO Box 446, Malverne, NY 11565. Frank can also be reached by email at fscobe@optonline.net.

Frank Scoblete Websites:

www.goldentouchcraps.com
www.goldentouchblackjack.com

Books by Frank Scoblete:

Beat Blackjack Now!: The Easiest Way to Get the Edge!

> More Books By Frank Scoblete