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How Do You Deal with the Back Wall in a Controlled Dice Throw?

3 July 2008

By Frank Scoblete

Mr. Scoblete,

Let me start by saying thank you for all the effort you have put in to your dice control system. I have studied it and been practicing for about 4 months at 5-8 hours/week.

I have just returned from Vegas and I noticed that even on my very good rolls after the dice hit the wall they would split and rotate more than once. How do you overcome the triangles on the back wall of the craps table?

I feel like even if you have the perfect roll and it lands flat against the back wall the diamonds will lead it to rotate. I understand that you can have one rotation when using the hard way set, but I feel there is no way to control the dice once it hits the back wall.

Thank you.

Rocco

Dear Rocco:

The back wall is less of a problem than actually missing the back wall. I know that is hard to believe but a controlled throw as taught by Golden Touch Craps is geared to hitting those pyramids. If you miss the pyramids the roll tends to be completely random as the two dice are doing different movements.

Now, yes, the back wall help reduce the supposed perfection of a throw quite a bit.

Let us say that you start your throw at a 98 percent of perfection - your stance is perfect; your set is perfect; your throw is almost perfect...then nature takes over as those dice head into the air. The dice start to expand the small flaws in the throw; they hit on the table top and the felt which also take away much of your close to perfect throw. Once the dice hit those pyramids even more of their now-lost perfection is gone. Now the dice bounce back, roll, and stop.

They are no longer 98 percent near perfection - they are more like one to five percent near perfection. That is now your edge. Yes, even hitting those pyramids will not take away all of a Golden Touch throw, just most of it. Still with a one to five percent edge you can beat the casinos at craps.

Is getting this edge easy? No, it takes a lot of practice. The really elite Golden Touch dice controllers can get far higher edges than those I mentioned in this response.

For your great letter I am giving you a free 10-day subscription to my private web site at www.goldentouchcraps.com. There are over 5,000 members on this site and many of them are the best dice controllers in the world. I think you will find the conversations to be interesting, educational and fun. I hope you enjoy them. You can also partake in all discussions.

All the best in and out of the casinos!

Frank Scoblete

Frank Scoblete
Frank Scoblete is the #1 best-selling gaming author in America and executive director of Golden Touch - which teaches classes in advantage methods for beating craps, blackjack, Pai Gow poker, video poker and some select slot machines.

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