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Do all casinos ban dice setting?

Hi, Frank,

I have bought and read all of your books on craps such as Beat the Craps Out of the Casinos: How to Play Craps and Win!, The Golden Touch™ Craps™ Dice Control Revolution, Forever Craps: The Five-Step Advantage Play Method! and am also thinking about joining the Golden Touch Craps member's page. Thanks for all the valuable info you have provided.

I am fairly new to the craps arena and dice controlling. I live in Perth, Australia and I go to the local casino about once a month. I have not yet mastered my dice controlling so I would usually buy in and play the limited bankroll system in your book. But last week, when I was at the craps table, I was quite surprised at what happened. It was this young man's turn to shoot. I could see him trying to set the dice a certain way on the table, but when the boxman saw it, he immediately yelled at the young man to NOT set the dice. He said that "dice setting was not allowed in the casino."

The young man must also have been surprised as he followed up and asked why this was so. The boxman then said, "This is the rule in every casino in the world!, If you want to, you can go check with the other casinos!"

This really shocked me as I know the first step to a controlled throw is by setting the dice. If the casinos banned dice setting, then is there any point in learning how to set the dice anymore? If I could, I would surely check this with other casinos, but this is the only casino in town. I am just wondering if this is also the case in casinos in other parts of the world, or just casinos in Australia in particular? I thought you would be the most appropriate person to ask as you are at the front line of the craps scene.

Thanks.

Sincerely,
John

Dear John:

The boxman was a ploppy of the greatest variety. He is completely wrong about all the casinos in the world banning dice setting. Only a few, very few, do something this stupid --- I mean really stupid.

Almost all dice setters are not controlled shooters. In fact, almost all dice setters are the same big losers at craps as those who don't set the dice. Today about 50 percent of players set the dice in some way. It is a ritual of craps.

All this ploppy-boxman did was lose a customer -- which is true of the few other casinos that do this. In their fear of a handful of craps shooters who can actually beat them, they lose far more money than those advantage craps players can win.

How do you spell dumb? You spell it with the name of this boxman.

I wouldn't worry about it. I played for a week in Vegas last week and no one said a word to me about setting the dice.

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All the best in and out of the casinos!

Frank Scoblete