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Can we increase the 5-Count to the 6-Count?

12 May 2011

Dear Frank,

I am from the UK and have had an interest in playing craps for the last few years. Unfortunately, I only really get the chance to play when I am on vacation as there is no real love of craps in the UK.

I came across the 5-Count this evening at work whilst working the overnight shift! Dr. Don Catlin has provided testing that shows the advantages of using the count if a player has the patience and discipline to stick with it. (http://www.goldentouchcraps.com/proof.shtml)

My question is: Would you not be able to significantly increase the elimination of random rollers percentage if a player was to adopt a 6-Count? Whilst most players around a table have an SSR of 1-6, if there is a skilled shooter at the table the 5-Count will select him with a higher frequency than the rest of the players and will thereby reduce the house edge or, as in this case, give the player the edge. If we were to extend the 5-Count to 6-Count we could therefore reduce the house edge further.

The negative side of increasing the count is that it would require increased discipline and patience as a player is going to have fewer betting opportunities. The reason that I have asked solely about increasing the count to 6 is that due to the noted negative side of increasing the count a player using the count would still like to place some bets.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this.

Kind regards,
Dan

Hi Dan:

You are right. On random rollers the 6-Count is better than the 5-Count and the 100-Count is better than the 6-Count. However, the best bet on random rollers is no bet. Unfortunately, many players do not know in advance who the controlled shooters might be and thus we use the 5-Count. If you wish to extend that to the 6-Count that would be fine but as you say, the discipline necessary would be greater.

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We have over 5,000 members on this private site and the conversations are interesting, enlightening and fun.

Enjoy!

All the best in and out of the casinos!

Frank Scoblete


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Frank Scoblete is the #1 best selling gaming author in America. His newest books are Slots Conquest: How to Beat the Slot Machines; Everything Casino Poker: Get the Edge at Video Poker, Texas Hold'em, Omaha Hi-Lo and Pai Gow Poker!; Beat Blackjack Now: The Easiest Way to Get the Edge; Casino Craps: Shoot to Win!; Cutting Edge Craps: Advanced Strategies for Serious Players; Casino Conquest: Beat the Casinos at Their Own Games! and The Virgin Kiss.

Frank and Casino City Times columnist Jerry "Stickman" teach private lessons in dice control. Frank's books are available at Amazon.com, in bookstores or by mail order. Call 1-800-944-0406 or write to Frank Scoblete Enterprises, PO Box 446, Malverne, NY 11565. Frank can also be reached by email at fscobe@optonline.net.

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